S7, Ep4 – In conversation with Francesca Ogiermann-White
4 October 2025
In this episode of Life & Smile, we bring back a very special guest who joined us all the way back on our debut episode of Life & Smile Season One – Francesca Ogiermann-White.
Francesca is highly celebrated across the industry as the Health and Beauty Editor At Large for Tatler Magazine and is renowned for founding The Beauty Triangle – a platform for health and wellness events in the UK and Dubai, creating conversations that educate and empower.
Conversation Show Notes – The Recap
Rewinding back to the beginning, Francesca describes how she had always wanted to work in fashion but fell into beauty at a time when the focus was on writing about lipstick, fragrance, and the latest moisturisers to hit the beauty halls.
Francesca describes how she was really lucky to be working for a magazine like Tatler, which was the only publication back in those days that was truly addressing surgical, non-surgical, spa, and wellness. This industry was all about the people behind it, and Francesca loved getting to meet fascinating individuals and practitioners dedicated to health and wellness.
Even now, she remains attached to the publication. Since leaving in her full-time capacity, she continues to edit the surgery guide and the spa guide, contrasting sides of the industry that are so different yet so synergistic.
Francesca, of course, went on to set up The Beauty Triangle, which has now gone global. It hosts events regularly, including additional launches in Dubai, where she travels on a six-monthly basis for The Beauty Triangle Week of Wellness, featuring three or four events in succession. Francesca notes there is a huge appetite for wellness in Dubai, although the conversations there seem to be a few years behind those currently happening in the UK, which makes addressing these gaps all the more exciting.
The conversations within The Beauty Triangle aim to reflect what others are discussing, answering questions, and introducing consumers to practitioners in a meaningful way. A recent conversation on hormonal health in Dubai allowed them to lead the dialogue, accelerating key topics when people need them most. Fertility, egg freezing, and men’s health are all important topics on the radar – it’s about creating a safe space where people can ask questions freely and know where to find the best practitioners.
On a global scale, Francesca describes how different conversations and trends in aesthetics across the world can be incredibly inspiring.
When it comes to career advice, authenticity is key. In a saturated landscape, people engage with those who are truly themselves. Doing something you are curious about and passionate about is crucial, and sometimes it’s simply about knowing where to begin.
Regarding writing and capturing ideas, Francesca utilises snatched moments, as there is often no perfect structure to the week. She is a fan of transcribing thoughts on her phone when out and about.
Meeting other people keeps Francesca inspired daily — the energy you get from meeting someone sparks proper chemistry.
Her three main essentials: lipstick, AirPods, and her laptop.
Episode Key Takeaways – The Best ideas
Often there are conversations and chapters in life where we don’t have the confidence to speak out about what we’re going throughThe more conversations you have about topics, the more mainstream they become.
In the UK and Europe, we struggle with the association of guilt or vanity when doing something for ourselves.
We don’t always have to beat ourselves up for aspiring to be a different version of ourselves.
Travelling is endlessly fascinating – the world is such a diverse place.
Don’t just deviate to the thing you’re good at – think about the things you’re really curious about. Exploring your curiosity is key.
Often the most effective thing when editing a piece of writing is removing the first paragraph – if you cut that and go straight to the main content in paragraph two, it’s usually really strong.
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S7, Ep1 – In conversation with Trinny Woodall
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S3, Ep8 – In conversationwith Lauren Murdoch-Smith
As a renowned editor for British Vogue, Lauren Murdoch-Smith has the final word when it comes to everything lifestyle, beauty, and wellness. Having worked at the magazine and Vogue brand since 2014, she is currently holding the title of Acting European Beauty & Wellness Director.
